Re Master Mechanic products? - Petel
Hello.
I am seeking a spare part for a trolley jack, Master Mechanic TJ4000. These were made in China for " Master Mechanic " based in Ipswich. Can anyone please advise who these people are and if they are still in existance. If not, any suggestions as to where parts could be obtained would be welcome.

Seeking a new pressure seal, item 77 on the parts list or a complete piston assy, parts 73 to 77 on their parts list.
Thank you.
Re Master Mechanic products? - mrmender
if it's just seals you require any good hydraulic specialist should have what you want, they are all standard sizes look in Yellow pages
Re Master Mechanic products? - Petel
Thanks for the suggestion but only two such places in my area, went to both today with zero result. Having searched on the net, have only found one lead, manufacturer unknown but has a part number SU11-5-6.5. This translates to 11m/m dia at the top, flairing out to just over 12m/m when pumping. Has 5m/m hole down through, presumably for a 4.5m/m shaft and stands 6.5m/m overall hight. If this ( SU11-5-6.5 ) means anything to anyone, would be pleased to hear of it. Any further suggestions as to places which might stock or supply such seals would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Re Master Mechanic products? - mrmender
try a agricultrial engineers/mechanic thats who provided me with what i needed for a chineese engine hoist jack, or a good marine hydraulic expert
Re Master Mechanic products? - branchpipe
Hi did you find a supplier? As I too have a TJ4000 that is need of a new Cup Seal (item 77)
Re Master Mechanic products? - Petel
Sorry, still looking for one myself.
Rgds.
Re Master Mechanic products? - mike hannon
My Master Mecanic trolley jack is still working OK after more than 12 years (X fingers). But it was so cheap when new - and similar kit is even cheaper now - that I can't see the point of trying to repair it when it goes wrong. Am I missing something?
Re Master Mechanic products? - Petel
Hello Mr Hannon.
Pleased so hear that your unit is giving good service, so was mine until let down by a small piece of plastic. I know that these seals are out there somewhere.
Rgds.
Re Master Mechanic products? - TurboD
no help to you , but I bought an Epco 30 years ago and it is still perfect, but was equivalent to a month's wages then.
cheap and cheerful? or a load of crap? make you decisions.
I hate buying rubbish and will not do it
Re Master Mechanic products? - branchpipe
In reply to Mike's comment "I can't see the point of trying to repair it" well I thought we were living in the time of recycling, and to throw the whole jack away for the sake of a small piece of nylon/plastic does not seem to make environmental sense.

However, it does seem I shall be off to Argos to purchase a new jack, as I cannot live with out one. They have a 3 toner for £39.99 (038/1767) in their new catalogue, and if eventually I track down a seal for my TJ400 I shall then have two jacks, one for either side!!!
Re Master Mechanic products? - syncro6
My MASTER MECHANIC trolley jack model TJ1500, bought 13 years ago failed while I was lifting my Passat - okay I agree that it was cheap and it was always meant as a back-up while using my Sealey semi-pro trolley jack, but the 10 year old Sealey will not hold up for long periods - I bought a refurbish kit from their local agent (£5.00 +p&p) but have not fitted this kit yet. Back to the MR MECHANIC jack, as with others it is the cup seal that has split and it seems a pity to trash this jack because of that. If I am correct, excluding the really professional models, there are no "good jacks" or "bad jacks" its just the paintwork that makes them up market or down market - oh and the packaging - as they, or at least the hydraulic parts, are all made in China! So, the smart money might be on matching your jack to a Sealey jack and getting their local agent to supply you with a kit. It seems wrong to dump this work on Sealey, but if it gives you a working jack, why not. I can see that I will be forced to buy a small Clarke jack from Machine Mart and check if the pump cup seal is the same - if it is I'll just check for the equivalent Sealey model type and order a parts kit - okay I will end up with another small cheap trolley jack - but I'll find a space for it! Curiously, while searching for the MASTER MACHANIC jack "handbook", I found the handbook for my 30 year old Halford trolley jack and its spares kit! It was ignored when I got my Sealey semi-pro jack, but now with a drop of fluid its currently my "number 1" jack.
Re Master Mechanic products? - Petel
Thanks for the reply. I am still looking for the correct seal.
Regards.
Re Master Mechanic products? - erik
Hi. When you find a suitable supplier I would be very pleased to know it as I too have a TJ4000 that is in need of a new Cup Seal (item 77).
Regards.
Erik.
TJ1500 TJ4000 - TJ4000

I there we sell a 2pc seal kit for the TJ1500

and sell a 2pc seal kit for the TJ4000

any other model we may need sample seals

please contact me on 0161 834 7666 barryw@hts-ltd.co.uk

our company is h.t.s Ltd based in manchester we are also a large seal company.

TJ1500 TJ4000 - TJ4000

wow

TJ1500 TJ4000 - FP

Still promoting your firm?

TJ1500 TJ2000 TJ4000 - TJ4000

We also do TJ2000 3pc seal kits

Re Master Mechanic products? - milkyjoe
have you tried Rhondama ltd in Loughborough?
Re Master Mechanic products? - Petel
Yes, I did thanks. Found them in a Google search at the time and filled in their online form,
there was no response.
Regards.
Re Master Mechanic products? - piston power
dump it & buy a new one! the piece of mind of a new jack, new seals, piston, would make me feel safer ..
Re Master Mechanic products? - expatmanc
Got to agree with the throw it away camp. It's cost you more in time and stress now than a quick trip to Machine Mart to get a half decent new one with a guarantee! And don't say 'I don't need to use it at the mo' coz you will, always when its most inconvenient!!! Move on.....
Re Master Mechanic products? - Petel
Thanks, but I will keep looking.
Rgds
Re Master Mechanic products? - mike hannon
Doh! My Master Mecanic jack has now started leaking hydraulic oil...
Time to practice what I preach and dump it (for recycling) before investing 20 quid in another one.
Re Master Mechanic products? - erik
Hi Petel.
I too have a TJ4000 that was in need of a new Cup Seal. Having read this discussion forum and the obvious difficulty in obtaining the correct spare part I decided to make one. Fortunately I have a lathe and the material I chose was white nylon. Using a relatively high cutting speed and an ordinary high speed tool it machined very well. I have used the jack a number of times and it operates very well with absolutely no leakage. I feel the the nylon seal is far superior than the original one and definitely stronger. Also I am very confident the seal will not suddenly fail but may leak slightly with prolonged use, only time will tell.
Regards.
Erik.
Re Master Mechanic products? - sjl
Hello Petel,

I too have a faulty cup seal, material seems far too friable. Even the spare part - not used has disintegrated in the bag. Im going to take Eriks advice and make one at work (the boss is away next week) may try PTFE as I am wondering how the oil will react with the nylon. Does seem a shame to bin it for one small part.

SJL
Re Master Mechanic products? - Petel
Thanks, but I will keep looking.
Rgds
Re Master Mechanic products? - erik
SJL.
PTFE will work fine and in fact is very similar to the white nylon I used. It is not affect by the oil. I could have used PTFE but decided to used nylon because it has to distort slightly to fit onto the piston. The slightly difficult bit is machining the end flare which has to be correct to maintain a good sealing surface. Best of luck and I will not tell the boss.
Regards.
Erik.
Re Master Mechanic products? - PRG
Hi Guys,

Interesting reading all of this. I have also been looking for a piston cup. Any chance that you could make a couple of them erik? We could pay you for them?

Regards,

Peter
Re Master Mechanic products? - erik
Hello Peter.
Yes I would be willing to help and the cost would be the postage only. Please let me know how I can contact you safely. I am worried that if I give my e-mail address or mobile telephone number on this forum I will be inundated with request for these seals.
Regards.
Erik.
Re Master Mechanic products? - Dynamic Dave
Erik, email me, and I in turn will pass your details onto Peter.

DD. dave_moderator@honestjohn.co.uk
Re Master Mechanic products? - mjm
Another excellent example of why this site is so good.

Can you help?

Yes of course.

I'll assist, if needed.
Re Master Mechanic products? - AlexS
Hi Dave,
Saw the discussion regarding replacement TJ4000 seal part number 77. I'm short of the same item the jack having failed last Saturday and the spare part supplied having been too brittle to install. Might you please be able to put me in touch with Peter?
Thanks.

Re Master Mechanic products? - Dynamic Dave
Hi Dave. Might you please be able to put me in touch with Peter?


Details passed onto Peter following your email to me. Unless of course you aren't the same Alex who emailed me on Saturday?
Re Master Mechanic products? - Dave Elsy
Any chance of putting me in touch with Peter also please?

I've now got three jacks that need seals.

Thanks

email is david.elsy 'at' blueyonder.co.uk

Regards

Dave elsy

{details passed onto Erik as per your email request to me}

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 25/05/2008 at 19:30

Re Master Mechanic products? - JJC
Hi Erik,
I also have one of these jacks. The cup washer has been split for years and it only lifts about half way. I don't want to replace it because a) it has a very low retracted hight, so fits under my old low-slung sports cars b) it is obscene to throw away a whole jack for the want of a washer. If you are making some of these seals I would be very grateful if you could make me one too - I'm happy to pay a reasonable price for your good work too. Please let me know and I'll find a way to make contact. Thanks JJC
Re Master Mechanic products? - davey M
Hi, last week I joined that happy band of brothers who have a very good, hardly used master mechanic jack that doesnt work for the sake of a cup seal that is almost impossable to source! Is there any chance you can help me out? I dont want to take advantage of you but if you have a spare seal I would be happy to pay a reasonable sum for the seal, scrapping the jack seems such a waste.
Re Master Mechanic products? - Rupert46
Hello out there. I have just discovered this web site and that I am joining what seems to be a growing clan. My master mechanic jack seel failed this week - on investigating my jack i ended up with a seal in several pieces of inflexible material!
To get to the point - if any of your correspondents has now found a source for the seal or has ended up making extra I would be most interested in purchasing one for a reasonable sum.
Thanks for reading my SOS.
Re Master Mechanic products? - Mindy
Hi Rupert

I have a brand new TJ4000 going on Ebay today. If you have not resolved this by now you may want to bid for it. It is absolutely new and still in its box, just been sitting in the shed since we bought it.

Not sure if that is helpful.

M
SNIPQUOTE!

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 17/05/2008 at 21:05

Re Master Mechanic products? - Malandrab
Hello Peter.
Yes I would be willing to help and the cost would be the postage only.


Hi, is the production line still operating?

I too have the cup seal problem but do not have anything from which to make a copy: I lost count of the number of bits I removed. I would be happy to purchase a replacement from you unless anybody has a better answer.

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 02/05/2008 at 22:28

Re Master Mechanic products? - Dave Elsy
What is the current position on seals for these jacks? Is anybody producing them in quantity, as there's obviously quite a demand.
This same model of jack appears to have (or even still is) marketed under many different names, but all imported from China, and all without any spares.

I've now got three duff jacks, all of which need new seals. I've spent hours and hours searching for spares with absolutely no luck whatsoever.
It's a crime to throw them away just for the sake of a small platic part.

Please email me if you have or can make some at david.elsy@blueyonder.co.uk and my cheque will be in tonight's post!

Thanks

Dave Elsy
Re Master Mechanic products? - thames6D
Hi, I too have today become the owner of non-working TJ4000 jack, I think its suffered the same failure as everyone else has reported on here. The plastic grommet or seal at the end of small ram has disintigrated.

I too would be willing to purchase a seal if somebody out there is making them.

Thanks
Re Master Mechanic products? - Jack seal
Hi Guys, It took me ages to re-find this discussion after registering, I'm not that good on computers. I nearly had an accident when i discovered the original conversation, as this piston seal and o ring are what i have been looking for for years. I to am the proud owner of the M M TJ4000 which has been loosing pressure for a long time now and finally give up the ghost when I took it apart today, I`ve even given up servicing my car on the strength of it. Thanks to Pete for starting the ball rolling but was disappointed to discover that what started on 10th June 2007 untill now Aug 2008, is still not resolved. I don't want to burden anyone, "we all know time is precious" but if anyone can obtain these allusive parts for me I would be eternally grateful. You may forward my email to anyone who might help. Many thanks and best regards. wilfhoward@yahoo.co.uk
Re Master Mechanic products? - Screwloose

Most seal and gasket suppliers will make you any ram seal to pattern; just look them up on Yell.com.
Re Master Mechanic products? - jc2
You can probably buy a new jack for the price of the spares.
seal ( SU11-5-6.5 ) - GAMM
Done some hunting of my own and will let people know how I got on
Re Master Mechanic products? - donald35
TJ4000 jack.
Many answers further down this discussion I found the answer to a broken seal in the pump. HTS Ltd of Manchester (0161 834 7666) can supply a replacement seal and O ring for £9.09. I rang them yesterday, and the parts arrived today. Ref MUP 6x12x6
The jack would not pump up until I had turned it upside down, and operated the handle a few times.
Thanks to whoever found the company.
Re Master Mechanic products? - jjc
Thanks so much donald35,
After only half working for most of the last 20 years I can now get it up again! I'm really glad, I've always liked this jack, it goes low, has a wide wheel-base and a tall lift.
I got the same parts from HTS in Manchester. The phone number on their web site is different to above - but it is the same place and the parts are correct for my TJ4000.
Cost was just over £10 including VAT and P&P for the cup washer and o-ring. They seemed to know what I was talking about when I phoned up so I guess they might be doing a brisk trade in these parts now.
Re Master Mechanic products? - Emilys_Dad
Hello.
I am seeking a spare part for a trolley jack Master Mechanic TJ4000. These
were made in China for " Master Mechanic " based in Ipswich. Can anyone please
advise who these people are and if they are still in existance. If not any
suggestions as to where parts could be obtained would be welcome.
Seeking a new pressure seal item 77 on the parts list or a complete piston
assy parts 73 to 77 on their parts list.
Thank you.


I found this topic while looking for exactly the same part as you.
When my jack failed the other day I smugly dug out the set of spares seals that came with the jack over 25 years ago. However my spare had hardend with age and was useless.
I did find a suitable replacement though from what was Manchester Seals in Cannon St Manchester 0161 832 7922, they're now part of HTS/Hydraulic Transmission Services Ltd
0161 8347666 or leeds 0113 2793017
The seal you need is MUP 6 x 12 x 6 (ie 6mm ID 12mm OD 6mm tall) was £6.90 and is a lovely shade of green polyurethene.
Hope this gets another jack back in action!>>
Re Master Mechanic products? - deuce
they're now part of HTS/Hydraulic Transmission Services Ltd

SQ

I have just found this discussion after my jack failed a couple of weeks ago, I ordered the parts from HTS yesterday and they arrived first thing this morning, great service.However after first removeng the pump cylinder to remove what was left of the old seal then refitting and fitting the new seals and piston the jack still does not work.It has the same problem as when it failed the handle when operated under load is pushed up as if trying to eject the pump piston, the only thing missing is the spray of hydraulic oil, so at least the new seal works.Have I missed something, the old seal skirt from the cylinder matches with what was left on the piston so I don't think there's anything left in and I drained the jack and refilled with new oil, anyone got any thoughts, I haven't got the parts diagram so I'm not sure what else is in there.

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 24/03/2009 at 18:43

Re Master Mechanic products? - iancoupe20v
hi ihave the same problem, have you got it sorted yet and if so can you please help me
regards
iancoupe20v
Re Master Mechanic products? - Dynamic Dave
Have you read the suggestions above as to where to source the parts from?
Re Master Mechanic products? - deuce
Hi, short answer is "no", jack is still U/S, without parts diagram can't work out what else might have gone. Have bought a new jack, 2t rating but nowhere near the build or footprint of the old one, so would still like to get it fixed if poss, have you had any luck??
Deuce
Re Master Mechanic products? - mounteney
Hi Deuce, I kept the original instructions that have the contrusction diagrams - if you'd like me to e-mail them to you please e-mail me at mountain@aol.com and I'll send it. I'm just about to contact HTS myself.....
Re Master Mechanic products? - big roy
any chance of getting a repair manual off you for my tj 4000 and help find spares.

Thanks Big Roy
Re Master Mechanic products? - big roy
hello, Mounteney. tried to contact you on your e-mail but it bounced back.
I wondered if you still had some manuals for tj4000 jack and parts info. If you have I would much apretiate you sending me one..

Thanks Big Roy
Re tj4000 jack manual - staff2
hello, Mounteney. tried to contact you on your e-mail but it bounced back. I wondered if you still had some manuals for tj4000 jack and parts info. If you have I would much apretiate you sending me one.. Thanks Big Roy

Hi Mounteney I read your message regarding construction manual for the TJ4000 car jack. I have become one of the growing number to experience seal failure and was wondering if you still had a copy of the aforesaid manual and if so could you please email me a copy. thanks in anticipation staff2

Re Master Mechanic products? - richaliy

Hi, know you offered to send Deuce a copy of instructions for the Master Mechanic TJ4000 jack a long time a go. Have you still got a copy that you could send me also? Thanks in anticipation, Rich.

Hi Deuce, I kept the original instructions that have the contrusction diagrams - if you'd like me to e-mail them to you please e-mail me at mountain@aol.com and I'll send it. I'm just about to contact HTS myself.....

Re Master Mechanic products? - richaliy

Hi, I know it's a long time ago but I am in the same position that you described below with my TJ 4000 jack. Did you manage to get resolved? Many thnaks, Rich.

>> they're now part of HTS/Hydraulic Transmission Services Ltd SQ I have just found this discussion after my jack failed a couple of weeks ago, I ordered the parts from HTS yesterday and they arrived first thing this morning, great service.However after first removeng the pump cylinder to remove what was left of the old seal then refitting and fitting the new seals and piston the jack still does not work.It has the same problem as when it failed the handle when operated under load is pushed up as if trying to eject the pump piston, the only thing missing is the spray of hydraulic oil, so at least the new seal works.Have I missed something, the old seal skirt from the cylinder matches with what was left on the piston so I don't think there's anything left in and I drained the jack and refilled with new oil, anyone got any thoughts, I haven't got the parts diagram so I'm not sure what else is in there.

Re Master Mechanic products? - Robin the Technician
Hi everyone,
I work for Unipart and I'll try and find out an address or phone number fro Master Mechanics HQ. You can then contact them for seal/ breakdown of the jack in question.

If I get the info I'll post it on here...

robin the technician

Re Master Mechanic products? - mike hannon
I put away my Master Mecanic trolley jack ages ago, after long years of service, because I thought it was leaking.
Went to throw it away the other day and discovered it was fine - something else had been leaking onto it. Now back in service.
Happy days!
Re Master Mechanic products? - kate1
Hi, im looking to get my grampas jack fixed its a master machanic TJ1500. im not to sure about jacks but basicly it wont stay up now. just wondering if you found somewere that sells parts or does repairs or anything?

thanks
Re Master Mechanic products? - sandy56
Just a suggestion, the USA may be a good source of spare parts- they seem to have better independent suppliers than we do for all sorts of car spares even for OLD american cars and tools eg JACKS.
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Re Master Mechanic products? - TJ4000

hi there

we sell all seals at our company for the TJ4000 & TJ1500

they are a 2pc seal kit .

if you need the manual for a TJ4000 i can email it to you for free .

contact details

Barry

hydraulic transmission services ltd, cannon street, salford, lancs, m3 6jh

0161 834 7666 barryw@hts-ltd.co.uk

Re Master Mechanic products? - TJ4000

We can now supply the ram seal kit for the tj4000 master mechanic trolley jack

barry

hydraulic transmission services ltd, cannon street, salford, lancs, m3 6jh

0161 834 7666 barryw@hts-ltd.co.uk

we also do many other seals & kits with your samples

Re Master Mechanic products? - FP

Another freeloader.

Re Master Mechanic products? - focussed

Another freeloader.

Not a very helpful comment IMHO about someone genuinely trying to offer the parts that a lot of people are looking for.

Re Master Mechanic products? - alan1302

Another freeloader.

Not a very helpful comment IMHO about someone genuinely trying to offer the parts that a lot of people are looking for.

A bit of a late reply! LOL

I agree though - someone trying to get free advertising is a freeloader.

trolley jacks seal kits - TJ4000

we also can offer sealkits for all other trolley jacks

please phone and give the make & model of your jack

we are here to help

thanks Barry 0161 834 7666

trolley jacks seal kits - Monitorman3

Hi All,

I realise that this an old thread but here is my experience in fixing one of these tj4000 jacks.

My neighbour asked me to look at, and perhaps repair a tj4000 which his son had used to jack out some tree roots, when he got the jack back it no longer pumped up.

There was no sign of leakage but when pumped the lifting pad rose and stayed there if the handle was held down, however when the handle was raised for another pump the lifting pad dropped back again. In addition if the lifting pad was held up by hand, and the jack pumped again it would lift again, but drop down to the previous position. He suggested that it was caused by failure of the seals.

I removed the pump piston and cylinder by undoing the hex nut (and that was tight !!) to find that the nylon type seal had disintegrated into a crumbly mess. I cleaned this out ( not good enough it turns out), and ordered a polyurathane U-CUP seal size 6mm IDX 12 mm OD X 6mm high, from Totally Seals on Ebay. Now this seal is really too short, it should be 8mm high, but I packed it with a 12mm OD X 2mm thick O-Ring.

On reassembly the jack still did not work and showed exactly the same symptoms.

Now these jacks have several steel balls which act as valves, no springs,just plain old ball bearings. There is one ball (5mm diameter) inside the pump, below the piston which stops the oil going back into the oil reservoir, but this was clean and in place.

In addition there is another ( probably 5mm diameter) ball in the passage which feeds the oil from the pump to the Ram cylinder which I reasoned could be jammed by a bit of broken seal material. The only way to get to this is to dismantle the jack and undo the big (50mm AF) nut on the Ram end of the cylinder. This turned out to be super tight, requiring a 3 foot long bar to get it undone. OK, undo the nut, remove the Ram look down the Ram cylinder and you should see the ball tucked partly behind the copper sealing washer. In my case the ball did not move but after tapping it down with a punch and washing through with paraffin and compressed air the ball could be lifted and dropped with a magnetic screwdriver. Everything was washed with paraffin and dried with compressed air and reassembled using proper jack oil as an assembly lubricant.

Lo and behold, after refilling and bleeding, it all works perfectly.

Was it worth it ?

Well, in financial terms no, definitely no. But is was fun, interesting and I learned something.

Edited by Monitorman3 on 01/05/2019 at 13:29

trolley jacks seal kits - Don Anderson

TJ4000 pump seal 6mm or 8mm?

The pump seal in my TJ4000 trolley jack failed and I noted that the HTS Seal Kit comprises an O-ring and a U-CUP seal size 6mm IDX 12 mm OD X 6mm high.

However, as with Monitorman3 - and the pistonheads forum at

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1169545

the seal fitting on my TJ4000 pump piston is 8mm deep (high) so I contacted HTS (Hydraulic Transmission Services Ltd - 0161 834 7666) and spoke to Barry Worswick who advised me not to pack their 6mm high seal with a 2mm O-ring, but to use an 8mm high seal, which they now hold in stock.

HTS sent me a kit with the 8mm seal - and it fits!

Re Master Mechanic products? - Malcolm Thirling
Hello. I am seeking a spare part for a trolley jack, Master Mechanic TJ4000. These were made in China for " Master Mechanic " based in Ipswich. Can anyone please advise who these people are and if they are still in existance. If not, any suggestions as to where parts could be obtained would be welcome. Seeking a new pressure seal, item 77 on the parts list or a complete piston assy, parts 73 to 77 on their parts list. Thank you.

Do you still have the Parts List for a Master Mechanic TJ4000 Trolley Jack. I am looking to see where the Ball Bearings and springs are located in the Pumping Cylinder and Release Valve.

Re Master Mechanic products? - P Adams

drive.google.com/file/d/1sgyLj4jiE4Qjlx6iQSyMlj3AO...k