A NIP has a date and time of the offence, so was this before or after the date the V5 changed hands? Surely that's all the info needed to determine who is liable. Or have I missed something?

Bearing in mind too that he's had plenty of chances to reply to the letters but hasn't and this has been ongoing since August/September.

Having had a chuckle at the preceding mess, I would point out that the situation when selling a vehicle in the UK is not helped by the antiquated V5 form that doesn't include any way to officially record the time of the sale - there's a space for the date, but not the time.

The time is critical (speed cameras etc) as your buyer can commit any offence on his way from the point of sale, and you the seller are liable.

What we have to do in France is to strike two black lines diagonally across the registration document and write sold (in French) and the date and time, both buyer and seller have to sign it, between the black lines, the buyer's name and address has to filled in on the reg doc.

We take a copy or phone snap of the reg document for reference.

We then send the complete reg document off to the government registration office.

This cancels the registration of the vehicle to the seller, and the buyer has a month to re-register it in his/her name and address.

Edited by focussed on 09/02/2023 at 00:40